Here is another of my own theories, let me know what you think
As we know from the end of season 3 from Jack screaming at Kate and from the end of season 4 from Ben telling Jack, ALL of the 06 MUST return to the island to put right the ‘bad’ things that happened when they left.
After watching some old episodes of LOST I have found a few things that have really made me think, made me think that the O6 have to not only go back to the island, but go back to the time of the crash.
First thing: In ‘Solitary’ (Season 1 Episode 9) when Sayid is being held captive by Danielle, he says Nadia is dead.
Danielle: But Nadia, you left her too?
Sayid: She wasn’t on the plane. She’s dead… because of me.
Now we all know Nadia is not dead. When Sayid flew from Sydney, he was under the impression that Nadia was alive and well in L.A working for a pharmaceutical company.
Second thing: In ‘All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues’ (Season 1 Episode 11) When Jack and Kate are out looking for Charlie and Claire, this is part of the conversation…
Jack: I’m not letting him (Ethan) do this.
Kate: Not letting him?
Jack: Not again.
Now what is he talking about? I think that members of the O6 are having faint momentary memories from things they know now in the future. I think Sayid is subconsciously aware that Nadia is dead in the future but he doesn’t fully remember. He is getting his memory from the future mixed up with his present memories.
As for Jacks little rant, again I think he is faintly remembering Ethan kidnapping Claire and Charlie first time round and is saying that he wont let him (Ethan) do it again, which is also why he is so intent on finding Ethan quickly…. He knows the outcome!
I think that the O6 must go back in time to the time of the crash, this is why all of them have to go back. They must travel back in time and course correct (not leave the island) to avoid the ‘bad’ things happening when they leave. I also think this is how Ben will get his place back on the island. If the O6 DO go back, then Ben will still be on the island. Ben hasn’t told Jack he must go back for the islands well being, he has told him so that it would be like he never turned the frozen donkey wheel in the first place.
Toni
Showing posts with label Oceanic 6. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Oceanic 6. Show all posts
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
Friday, March 14, 2008
Spoon's Theory on the O6
Spoon's thoughts on why the O6 are the ones who leave the island
Why the Oceanic 6?
So why is it the Oceanic 6? What happened to the other 815ers? What have we yet to see? These are answers I, sadly, do not have. But I will try and shed some light on what we have seen so far.
Remaining Two
So far it has been revealed (as of The Other Woman) that Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid are part of the Oceanic 6…..remember those names. What is it about these four that led them off the island? It seems, especially on Lost, that the explanations could be limitless, however, I believe there is a rhyme and reason to whom and more importantly why the Oceanic 6 came to be. First thing’s first, the final two. …It is in my opinion that the final two members of the O6 are Jin and Sun. Uneventful Iknow but hopefully the WHY will change that.
The WHY
Now for the good stuff….the why. Why are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun, & Jin the Oceanic 6? Why only them? In the simplest explanation…..they are the only ones who even have the ability. Why? (Man there are a lot of “whys” when it comes to Lost). Two words: The Swan. In The Constant, we learned that exposure to electromagnetism / radiation could cause “side-effects” while traveling to and from the island; those side-effects of course referring to the mind/consciousness flashing through time. I don’t have to mention Desmond….but I will. Desmond turned the fail safe key thus being at the apex of the electromagnetic anomaly which brought about his time flashes. It’s my belief that it is not only Desmond that is affected by the anomaly, but that most of our Losties might be affected by it because of their proximity to The Swan.
At the time of the electromagnetic anomaly most of our Losties were at the beach (located by the picture of the fuselage). They state in Season 2 that The Swan about 1.5 mils from the beach. In contrast to where Jack, Kate, Sawyer, & Hurley are [at the Pala Ferry(the boat to the right)] as well as Sayid, Sun & Jin (the four toed statue) that is relatively close. I believe the possibility of the Losties at the beach experiencing the “side-effects” while trying to leave the island is much greater than the others. In turn it also makes it more dangerous. I think Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sawyer, Sun & Jin are the safest when it comes to leaving the island. (I think Sawyer is still on the island with whatever remaining 815ers are alive…..because according to Juliet, war is coming).
Now I’m not saying this is without its flaws but I do think it’s on the right track.
My own addition to this theory
I think this theory is great and it would explain VERY well why the 06 are indeed the O6. This leads me to the reason Claire gives Aaron up. I know a few people may think that Claire dies on the island, but, after looking over this theory, I'm not so sure. I think its a possibility that the Losties find out about these side effects from Desmond. Claire was on the beach at the time of the hatch implosion so she would be at high risk from the side effects. The safest thing for her would be to stay on the island, but what mother would want her baby growing up in that place? This leads me to believe that Claire gives Aaron to Kate for his own safety. OK, so why isn't Aaron affected?? If you imagine a barrier around the island. There is a gap in this barrier that makes it safe to leave the island. On the way into the island all the Losties went through this barrier, so on departing, they experience side effects when they pass through. Aaron did not pass through this 'barrier' the same way that the other people did. I think this may be the reason he isn't affected. The other reason, as pointed out by Neeperkat, is that perhaps the side effects don't affect infants as it does adults.
Why the Oceanic 6?
So why is it the Oceanic 6? What happened to the other 815ers? What have we yet to see? These are answers I, sadly, do not have. But I will try and shed some light on what we have seen so far.
Remaining Two
So far it has been revealed (as of The Other Woman) that Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid are part of the Oceanic 6…..remember those names. What is it about these four that led them off the island? It seems, especially on Lost, that the explanations could be limitless, however, I believe there is a rhyme and reason to whom and more importantly why the Oceanic 6 came to be. First thing’s first, the final two. …It is in my opinion that the final two members of the O6 are Jin and Sun. Uneventful Iknow but hopefully the WHY will change that.
The WHY
Now for the good stuff….the why. Why are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun, & Jin the Oceanic 6? Why only them? In the simplest explanation…..they are the only ones who even have the ability. Why? (Man there are a lot of “whys” when it comes to Lost). Two words: The Swan. In The Constant, we learned that exposure to electromagnetism / radiation could cause “side-effects” while traveling to and from the island; those side-effects of course referring to the mind/consciousness flashing through time. I don’t have to mention Desmond….but I will. Desmond turned the fail safe key thus being at the apex of the electromagnetic anomaly which brought about his time flashes. It’s my belief that it is not only Desmond that is affected by the anomaly, but that most of our Losties might be affected by it because of their proximity to The Swan.
At the time of the electromagnetic anomaly most of our Losties were at the beach (located by the picture of the fuselage). They state in Season 2 that The Swan about 1.5 mils from the beach. In contrast to where Jack, Kate, Sawyer, & Hurley are [at the Pala Ferry(the boat to the right)] as well as Sayid, Sun & Jin (the four toed statue) that is relatively close. I believe the possibility of the Losties at the beach experiencing the “side-effects” while trying to leave the island is much greater than the others. In turn it also makes it more dangerous. I think Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sawyer, Sun & Jin are the safest when it comes to leaving the island. (I think Sawyer is still on the island with whatever remaining 815ers are alive…..because according to Juliet, war is coming).
Now I’m not saying this is without its flaws but I do think it’s on the right track.
My own addition to this theory
I think this theory is great and it would explain VERY well why the 06 are indeed the O6. This leads me to the reason Claire gives Aaron up. I know a few people may think that Claire dies on the island, but, after looking over this theory, I'm not so sure. I think its a possibility that the Losties find out about these side effects from Desmond. Claire was on the beach at the time of the hatch implosion so she would be at high risk from the side effects. The safest thing for her would be to stay on the island, but what mother would want her baby growing up in that place? This leads me to believe that Claire gives Aaron to Kate for his own safety. OK, so why isn't Aaron affected?? If you imagine a barrier around the island. There is a gap in this barrier that makes it safe to leave the island. On the way into the island all the Losties went through this barrier, so on departing, they experience side effects when they pass through. Aaron did not pass through this 'barrier' the same way that the other people did. I think this may be the reason he isn't affected. The other reason, as pointed out by Neeperkat, is that perhaps the side effects don't affect infants as it does adults.
Wednesday, February 27, 2008
Toni's Thoughts On Eggtown
Here are my thoughts on Eggtown
Aaron--- I think that Kates son Aaron is definitely Claires Aaron. So something must have happened to Claire for Kate to have him now. Now, onto Jack after the trial. He clearly doesn’t want to see the child, but why. My thought on this is that he knows he is Aarons uncle and cannot bear lying to the child for the rest of its life. He couldn’t ever tell Aaron who he really is without revealing that Kate is not his mother. But also, it would be strange raising Aaron with Kate, playing mummy and daddy to a child that is not their son, but is Jacks nephew. The O6 have all stuck to the same story since they left the island, I think the reason such a specific story was made up will become clear in time. But if Aaron was to find out when he was a bit older that Kate wasn’t his mother, the whole O6 story would be proven to be a lie and who knows what consequences there may be.
On to Jacks story on the stand about how Kate was a hero and Kate saved all of the O6. Why? This seems to be the story they were given from the start as Kate mentions it to Jack about how he has told that story so many times. I wonder if this story may have been given to them with Kates trial in mind. Kate went back to the real world knowing full well that she was going to be arrested. She questioned Miles on whether he knew her and what she had done, he made it pretty clear that the world knew all about Kate. So why would she go back? To be arrested and more than likely to be imprisoned for most of her life. There has to be more to it. Maybe the O6 are needed for something in the future?
The deal made at the trial was 10 years probation and Kate not being allowed to leave the state. Seems odd to me that her crimes were committed in Iowa but the trial was held in California. So its not her home state shes not allow leave, it’s a whole other state. Seems strange to me that its Cali shes not allowed to leave.
My thought on Daniel, Charlotte and the cards. I’m not sure that telepathy is what he was doing. I think Dan may have suffered some kind of injury to his memory. I think he is doing some kind of memory training when he and Charlotte are playing with the cards. This may explain why he was crying in Confirmed Dead and didn’t know why. Maybe he had some connection with some one on the plane, but couldn’t quite remember who he is connected to or why he had the connection. He feels upset for some reason, for the loss of someone, but cant quite place it.
Finally, Jin and Sun. When they are talking just before Jack returns to the beach with Daniel and Charlotte, Sun says "I want to raise MY baby at home in Korea." Jin replies "OUR baby". Sun looked away with a strange almost guilty look on her face. I don't think the baby is Jin's. I think that Sun conceived off the island during her affair. Maybe this could be explained by the time difference between on and off island events. Maybe Juliet actually thinks its Jin's and that the baby was conceived on the island, but she actually conceived off the island but the time difference makes it appear it was on island.
My own personal question of the week, is how the hell is Kates mum still alive?? The doctors have been giving her 6 months to live for the last 4 years. Last time we saw her she was about dead. Has Dharma been using some of their own kinda magic on her????
Aaron--- I think that Kates son Aaron is definitely Claires Aaron. So something must have happened to Claire for Kate to have him now. Now, onto Jack after the trial. He clearly doesn’t want to see the child, but why. My thought on this is that he knows he is Aarons uncle and cannot bear lying to the child for the rest of its life. He couldn’t ever tell Aaron who he really is without revealing that Kate is not his mother. But also, it would be strange raising Aaron with Kate, playing mummy and daddy to a child that is not their son, but is Jacks nephew. The O6 have all stuck to the same story since they left the island, I think the reason such a specific story was made up will become clear in time. But if Aaron was to find out when he was a bit older that Kate wasn’t his mother, the whole O6 story would be proven to be a lie and who knows what consequences there may be.
On to Jacks story on the stand about how Kate was a hero and Kate saved all of the O6. Why? This seems to be the story they were given from the start as Kate mentions it to Jack about how he has told that story so many times. I wonder if this story may have been given to them with Kates trial in mind. Kate went back to the real world knowing full well that she was going to be arrested. She questioned Miles on whether he knew her and what she had done, he made it pretty clear that the world knew all about Kate. So why would she go back? To be arrested and more than likely to be imprisoned for most of her life. There has to be more to it. Maybe the O6 are needed for something in the future?
The deal made at the trial was 10 years probation and Kate not being allowed to leave the state. Seems odd to me that her crimes were committed in Iowa but the trial was held in California. So its not her home state shes not allow leave, it’s a whole other state. Seems strange to me that its Cali shes not allowed to leave.
My thought on Daniel, Charlotte and the cards. I’m not sure that telepathy is what he was doing. I think Dan may have suffered some kind of injury to his memory. I think he is doing some kind of memory training when he and Charlotte are playing with the cards. This may explain why he was crying in Confirmed Dead and didn’t know why. Maybe he had some connection with some one on the plane, but couldn’t quite remember who he is connected to or why he had the connection. He feels upset for some reason, for the loss of someone, but cant quite place it.
Finally, Jin and Sun. When they are talking just before Jack returns to the beach with Daniel and Charlotte, Sun says "I want to raise MY baby at home in Korea." Jin replies "OUR baby". Sun looked away with a strange almost guilty look on her face. I don't think the baby is Jin's. I think that Sun conceived off the island during her affair. Maybe this could be explained by the time difference between on and off island events. Maybe Juliet actually thinks its Jin's and that the baby was conceived on the island, but she actually conceived off the island but the time difference makes it appear it was on island.
My own personal question of the week, is how the hell is Kates mum still alive?? The doctors have been giving her 6 months to live for the last 4 years. Last time we saw her she was about dead. Has Dharma been using some of their own kinda magic on her????
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Kate not part of the Oceanic 6?
Mas13's Theory on Kate not being a part of the Oceanic 6
If Kate is sent back to the 'real world' surely she would be arrested for the crimes she has committed. After all, she is wanted for murder, amongst other crimes. If she goes back, she would be tried and convicted of her crimes. But we know that Kate does get off the island as we saw her in the season 3 finale with 'Yeti Jack' at the airport.
Mas13 suggests that maybe she gets off the island another way. Maybe she is given another identity so she is protected from the law. If the law thinks she is dead and isn't looking for her, this would be fairly easy. This may be one explanation of why Jack chooses to meet her at the airport instead of her house or some other public place. If he is seen with her, her true identity may be found out.
If Kate is sent back to the 'real world' surely she would be arrested for the crimes she has committed. After all, she is wanted for murder, amongst other crimes. If she goes back, she would be tried and convicted of her crimes. But we know that Kate does get off the island as we saw her in the season 3 finale with 'Yeti Jack' at the airport.
Mas13 suggests that maybe she gets off the island another way. Maybe she is given another identity so she is protected from the law. If the law thinks she is dead and isn't looking for her, this would be fairly easy. This may be one explanation of why Jack chooses to meet her at the airport instead of her house or some other public place. If he is seen with her, her true identity may be found out.
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