The O6 have to go back to course correct!

Here is another of my own theories, let me know what you think


As we know from the end of season 3 from Jack screaming at Kate and from the end of season 4 from Ben telling Jack, ALL of the 06 MUST return to the island to put right the ‘bad’ things that happened when they left.

After watching some old episodes of LOST I have found a few things that have really made me think, made me think that the O6 have to not only go back to the island, but go back to the time of the crash.

First thing: In ‘Solitary’ (Season 1 Episode 9) when Sayid is being held captive by Danielle, he says Nadia is dead.

Danielle: But Nadia, you left her too?

Sayid: She wasn’t on the plane. She’s dead… because of me.

Now we all know Nadia is not dead. When Sayid flew from Sydney, he was under the impression that Nadia was alive and well in L.A working for a pharmaceutical company.

Second thing: In ‘All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues’ (Season 1 Episode 11) When Jack and Kate are out looking for Charlie and Claire, this is part of the conversation…

Jack: I’m not letting him (Ethan) do this.

Kate: Not letting him?

Jack: Not again.

Now what is he talking about? I think that members of the O6 are having faint momentary memories from things they know now in the future. I think Sayid is subconsciously aware that Nadia is dead in the future but he doesn’t fully remember. He is getting his memory from the future mixed up with his present memories.

As for Jacks little rant, again I think he is faintly remembering Ethan kidnapping Claire and Charlie first time round and is saying that he wont let him (Ethan) do it again, which is also why he is so intent on finding Ethan quickly…. He knows the outcome!

I think that the O6 must go back in time to the time of the crash, this is why all of them have to go back. They must travel back in time and course correct (not leave the island) to avoid the ‘bad’ things happening when they leave. I also think this is how Ben will get his place back on the island. If the O6 DO go back, then Ben will still be on the island. Ben hasn’t told Jack he must go back for the islands well being, he has told him so that it would be like he never turned the frozen donkey wheel in the first place.


Toni

The Shape Of Things To Come

My own thoughts on this weeks AMAZING episode

First thought is obviously Mr Smokie…. I think Ben is definitely controlling him or at least has the ability to summon him. I also think this is the reason smokie never put Locke in real danger, it never attacked him…..just tried to take him. I think this was Ben’s first attempt at getting Locke to join him. When this failed he went in to the Losties camp as ‘Henry Gale’. My other thought is about the visions Mr Eko had, I think these may have been somehow programmed into smokie by Ben. Remember he knows everything about everyone. This may been a way for Ben to make Eko unafraid of Smokie. I also think that The Tempest station has a lot to do with smokie…. I’m not sure what exactly yet, but if we remember that the gas was supposed to be released onto the island via tunnels…and it was one of those tunnels that smokie tried to drag Locke into. I’m thinking maybe smokie is a product of the Tempest.

Second thoughts are on Widmore and Ben…… I’m still sure that WIDMORE is the bad guy and Ben is a good guy. When Widmore said the island was his, it made me think that perhaps Widmore/Hanso are the same family or related in some way. I think Ben cant kill Widmore as Widmore has the money Ben needs to keep the island going. Widmore cant kill Ben as he knows where the island is and he doesn’t. I think without really wanting to, they are working together. Ben needs Widmores money and Widmore needs Ben’s knowledge of the island. I really think that Ben is still the good guy, all he wants to do is stop the island being exploited. Remember, Ben has a special bond with the island, it’s the only place he has seen his mother, its where he made his best friend in the world, so there is no reason for him to want any harm to come to the island. I don’t actually think that Ben will go ahead and have Penny killed. I think what he said about not killing innocents is what he means. I don’t think for a second he is evil enough to kill Penny out of revenge for Alex.

Now on to Doctor Ray…. This was a bit strange for me. As we know, in the Economist, when Regina sent the rocket to the island, the island was 31 minutes behind the freighter, BUT, when Doctor Ray is washed up on the shore, he is still fine on the freighter. This would mean, at THAT time, the freighter is behind the island. This kinda doesn’t make any sense to me at all.

Onto the whole Sayid/Nadia/Ben situation…. I know A LOT of people think that Ben has had Nadia killed to get Sayid on his side. I DON’T. Ben knows what it’s like to lose the only person you love, I don’t think he would put that pain on Sayid, not even if it was 100% for his own benefit. I am still gonna stand by my theory that Sayid is working for Ben because Widmore had Nadia killed, or perhaps someone involved with Widmore killed her. I think Ben has just seen this as an opportunity to manipulate Sayid into doing his dirty work. But I also think that Sayid will now want to wipe out everyone involved with Widmore.

Danielle…. This is more what I am hoping will happen. I want to see hre come back and kick some Widmore ass for Alex’s death. I think she is a tough old bird and I really hope she isn’t dead, we need to see more of her story.

Not so much a theory...Just thoughts

About who shot Karl and Danielle

Like a lot of people I'm torn between who shot Karl and Danielle.

The way I see it there are 2 possible options, Ben or The Freighties.

Ben......

Ben's motive for having them both killed is that a) He doesn't want ANYONE to be involved in Alex's life other than himself. If both Karl and Danielle are dead, the only person Alex will have to turn to is him. b) He doesn't want Karl to get Alex pregnant. My bigger thought on why it was Ben is this.... He said that the temple was only for 'The Others' NOT for the Losties to hide away from anyone who may be out to harm them. Danielle is clearly not 'an other' Karl... well I don't think that Ben would want to protect him in any way at all. So why would he suggest that Danielle and Karl take her there?

The Freighties......

The Freighties is another obvious one. If the freighties wanted to get to Ben, what would be the easiest way of getting him oput of hiding? Kidnap his 'daughter'. They have no need for Danielle or Karl so just shoot them both...less baggage. We know that Frank has been sent on some kind of mission, which gives us the idea that maybe his mission is to go and get Alex.


I really am torn as to who has done this. I'm more inclined to say Ben had ordered 'The Others' to do it.

But as we are talking about LOST, there is always the possibility that it's SOMEONE ELSE who ordered it.

Ben's The PIED Piper...and his wonderful game of chess...

Hey Dharmaholics! Niki here just putting in my two cents for the "Kevin Johnson" episode...

Let me start by decribing my title. Ben is an EVIL GENIUS. I refuse to believe that he is a "Good Guy"... He claims to Michael that he would NEVER kill innocent people...But we, the viewer, know otherwise. Does everyone forget that Ben barked orders left and right to kill those that got in the others way when the went to te beach last season to collect the pregnant women??!!..This all would have ended if Sayid would have killed that "little bastard" back in the Swan hatch when he claimed to be Henry Gale. Simply put--Ben gets what he wants...And FINALLY, it took Miles to explain this to LOCKE and SAWYER! It's so frustrating for them to keep Ben hanging around when all they have to do is consider what he has done to them...Kidnap children, tried to hang Charlie, ambushing the losties camp to get the pregnant women, order the killings of JIN, Bernard and Sayid....The list goes on and on...Jack and Sawyer share the thought of killing BEN for all these things, but Locke refuses to let it happen. No one in that house wanted Ben there-- NO ONE! I'm glad to see Miles stepping up-even if he only has his own benefits in mind (3.2 million)...
Ben is the Pied Piper because EVERYTHING has been set up by him from the start to GET WHAT AND WHO he wants!!! The chess reference---he has all his "PAWNS" in place to play his game. He had Juliet's husband killed---HIT BY A BUS...He had Michael's wife killed---Mysterious blood disease...BEN IS ALWAYS 10 steps ahead of everyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out that Widmore is just another PAWN in Ben's EVIL game!

Richard showed up around the time when Juliet felt helpless at her husband's death AND her sister's illness...Coincidence---I THINK NOT! For video clips to explain this see OUR VIDEO link on the blog...

Tom shows up when Michael is ready to end it all...Desperate and depressed because of Walt's alienation and the murders Michael committed...Coincidence---NO! These "Others" are representatives of BEN-- used to do his bidding to get these people to follow in his EVIL game!
"The island won't let you die!" --- That's horse shit!!! I believe Tom switched guns during their scuffle in the alley.

WHO'S IN THE COFFIN?
---Last year, Yeti Jack went to a viewing...The obituary from the papers said it was John Lantham... John apparently hung hmself in his apartment in New York...This makes me believe that Michael may be in the coffin...Let's look and compare.

John Lantham-Michael's mother made a statement that him and Walt are not to be adddressed by their ACTUAL names...This would explain the alias.

Hung himself- We saw that Michael is trying to commit suicide because of his guilt and alienation from his son.

New York- where Michael lives.

So that's who I think is in the coffin...How Jack finds out---I have no idea. But if everyone shares Sayid's opinion on Michael working for BEN--we know Kate does--that is why no one showed up to the viewing.

I'm gonna sum it up by saying IF YOU BELIEVE BEN IS A GOOD GUY THEN HE HAS YOU RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS YOU---HE HAS INCLUDED YOU IN THE FALSE PERCEPTION THAT HE IS ON YOUR SIDE.

He is the puppet master and will win this game of chess...Checkmate!!!

NIKI

Electromagnetism/Radiation on the island. Kills and cures?

Many thanks to Tilly and batttie for thoughts that have been very helpful in coming to this theory

We all know that women have been unable to have children successfully on the island, that they carry their baby then during childbirth, both mother and infant die. We know all this was happening before the swan imploded, but what about now it has gone? Could it be a possibility that the electromagnetism from the Swan caused this? We know that women cannot have x-rays while pregnant unless they are well protected, but mostly it is advised not to have one. We also know that women are advised to not have radiotherapy for cancer treatment while pregnant. But what would these treatments do to harm both mother and child?

Tilly pointed out that during radiotherapy in cancer treatment, the body's immune system is lowered, so could this mean that radiation/electromagnetism on the island has reduced the mothers immune system so much over the space of 9 months, that the body itself is treating the fetus as a foreign object? Or perhaps when the baby is born, its immune system is also so low that it dies at the time of birth? And as the mothers immune system is so low and birth is a traumatic experience as it is, her body just gives up. This could explain why Claire didn't die when giving birth to Aaron. She had only been exposed for a few weeks, rather than a full 9 months as the other mothers had been.

We know that Ben had a tumor on his spine and if radiation/electromagnetism was such a problem, surely his tumor would have been treated? But my answer to this would be that his tumor was just to aggressive for the radiation to possibly treat it. We know that not all cancer can be treated in such a way. This may explain Rose being cured also.

Why Ben took Alex

Sent in by Neeperkat

So Ben and Annie grow up togther, get married and are living very happily, and are expecting a baby! They take a walk one day, and Annie goes into labour, early, and just like Bens mother, she dies, and so does the baby. Now other mothers are dying as well while pregnant, and Ben sees this as a chance to get some leadership. He knows about Danielle so he goes and takes Alex from her to take back to the others as his own child that Annie had given birth too, to show that he is special and the island and Jacob has allowed him to have a child. He does not dare call the child what he and Annie had been planning, to painful, so he keeps her name Alex.

My own thoughts to add to this

I LOVE this theory. Just to add to Kats thought, it seems possible to me that Danielles ship was brought to the island. As most people know, I have a lot of Widmore/Dharma conspiracy theories and it seems possible to me that this could be Bens doing.

Michael is Bens man on the boat.

First theory sent in by Croucher...

When Michael made the deal with Ben to be released from the Island, he told him to head on that compass bearing and he would find help. Well I think that Ben knew where the freighter was and Michael had agreed to go and spy on the boat after learning some secrets of the Island.

Ok, so, Ben and Michael are in communication, and Walt, with his "powers" is also communicating with Locke. Michael will arrive back on the island on the freighter and redeem himself for betraying his Losties.

I think that maybe Wildmore has taken control of DHARMA, away from the Hanso foundation. Ben has the support of the Wildmores, and the Island helps with the pharmaceutical testings... The Wildmore are told by Ben that a plane has crashed on the island, and that people will come looking. Wildmore then sends Talbot on Christine 1 to go and "find" the wreckage, which has been staged by the Wildmores. This way the outside world would not come looking for the island. This supports the idea that DHARMA food drops etc are still being delivered. DHARMA might have ceased, but maybe Wildmore has taken control and using the island through Ben.

In the meantime, Hanso Foundation has got annoyed with DHARMA, and because Ben has stopped all communication to/from the Island, Hanso can’t get a team there to investigate. Therefore, when Hanso hears of a plane crash around the place the island is meant to be, he hires Michael Abbadon to group a team to go and investigate - knowing the islands electromagnetic powers could bring down a plane. The team is Naomi, and the freighter people. Abbadon (in Naomi's flashback) seems really sincere about there being no survivors, and maybe he believes that the plane is real.

Ben has been alerted of Hanso sending a team to the Island - and knows they aren't happy that he purged all DHARMA - so sends Michael with the cover story of he is a survivor that has escaped Ben. He will then feed them info (that Ben has already agreed) gaining their trust, and secretly sending info to Ben.

Ben knows that "the temple" or others places of the Island are safe to hide... and that’s why he sent the "others" to hide there.